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Tuesday, November 23, 2021

PS5, Xbox Series X, and GPU street prices are still through the roof - The Verge

Sony, Microsoft, Nvidia and AMD say they’re doing everything in their power to put a console or graphics card in your hands. But judging by eBay resale prices, their best won’t be nearly good enough this holiday season. One year after the next generation of gaming was supposed to arrive (narrator: it did not) people are still forking out hundreds of dollars over MSRP for a PlayStation 5 or Xbox Series X, and and they’re often still paying double what a new PC graphics card was originally supposed to cost.

Remember March 2020, when I told you how the two graphics cards in the photo above were worth a combined $2,570 on the open market? That was a shocking leap compared to the $1,660 total they could fetch in December 2020, already well above their $1,078 MSRP. But eight months later, that same photo now contains $2,605 worth of GPUs on the secondhand market. They haven’t dipped one bit.

The PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, too, are fetching higher prices this week than they did in March 2020 — if you take the scalper route, you can expect to pay over $800 on average for what should have been a $500 game console.

Those are the key findings from our latest dive into eBay sales data, but here’s the whole set for you to scan yourself. It includes the latest street prices for every console and graphics card released this generation, after filtering out a number of fakes, bundles, freak outliers (one AMD RX 6800 allegedly sold for $8,260) and other eBay listings that muddied the data.

GPU, PS5, Xbox street prices: November 2021

Item List price Street price (Nov '21) Street price (Mar '21) Street price (Dec '20) Current value
Item List price Street price (Nov '21) Street price (Mar '21) Street price (Dec '20) Current value
PS5 (disc) $499 $870 $833 $1,024 1.74x
PS5 (digital) $399 $806 $754 $990 2.02x
Xbox Series X $499 $856 $805 $835 1.72x
Xbox Series S $299 $346 $432 $471 1.16x
Nvidia RTX 3090 $1,499 $2,947 $2,985 $2,076 1.97x
Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti $1,199 $1,941 N/A N/A 1.62x
Nvidia RTX 3080 $699 $1,773 $2,160 $1,227 2.54x
Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti $599 $1,208 N/A N/A 2.02x
Nvidia RTX 3070 $499 $1,210 $1,239 $819 2.42x
Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti $399 $979 $1,226 $675 2.45x
Nvidia RTX 3060 $329 $749 $828 N/A 2.28x
AMD RX 6900 XT $999 $1,577 $1,841 Did not check 1.58x
AMD RX 6800 XT $649 $1,341 $1,555 $1,232 2.07x
AMD RX 6800 $579 $1,395 $1,331 $841 2.41x
AMD RX 6700 XT $479 $955 $1,169 N/A 1.99x
AMD RX 6600 XT $379 $683 N/A N/A 1.8x
AMD RX 6600 $329 $592 N/A N/A 1.8x
A “current value” of 1.74x means the PS5 is currently worth 1.74 times its MSRP, on average.

As you can see from the chart, a PS5 is no longer worth $1,000 like it was back in December 2020, but the discless PS5 Digital Edition can still fetch twice its asking price on eBay, and even the Xbox Series X appears to be slightly more desirable than before. The one bright spot is the less expensive Xbox Series S, which has finally come down to a mere $50 or so over its original list price of $300.

There are a few surprising findings on the GPU side of things, like how the RTX 3070 is currently fetching more than the 3070 Ti, despite being a little less powerful for games. (Perhaps people prefer the 3070’s reduced power consumption, smaller frame, and — in some cases — lack of cryptocurrency mining nerfs.) It’s also remarkable how much less the 3060 Ti fetches now, despite being fairly close to a 3070 in performance and well regarded for both gaming and mining from what I’ve heard.

Then again, the 3060 Ti Founders Edition is in greater demand than ever — the $400 card is now pulling down $1,447 on average, though I didn’t break it out in the chart. It’s one of the best picks out there for smaller cases, so I’m not wholly surprised.

Raw street prices don’t tell the whole story, though. Like in March, I also compiled a chart of how many consoles and components changed hands on eBay this past week, and it’s intriguing: Less than half as many Sony PS5s are moving, but now almost twice as many Nvidia graphics cards.

How many PS5s, Xboxes, GPUs changed hands in a week?

Item Mar 2021 Dec 2020
Item Mar 2021 Dec 2020
PS5 (disc) 1,898 3,651
PS5 (digital) 422 1,633
Xbox Series X 518 1,518
Xbox Series S 199 960
Nvidia RTX 3090 428 372
Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti 465 N/A
Nvidia RTX 3080 556 384
Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti 341 N/A
Nvidia RTX 3070 673 505
Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 750 141
Nvidia RTX 3060 639 782
AMD RX 6900 XT 63 106
AMD RX 6800 XT 91 107
AMD RX 6800 28 83
AMD RX 6700 XT 165 98
AMD RX 6600 XT 204 N/A
AMD RX 6600 112 N/A

Lower secondhand sales numbers for consoles don’t necessarily mean weaker supply — in fact, it could easily mean the opposite. Perhaps more people are getting satisfaction outside of eBay, never needing a scalper, because the likes of Sony and Microsoft are letting more people buy those consoles at retail instead. But on the GPU side of things, we can also still see how precious few AMD graphics cards are changing hands compared to Nvidia, with the original excellent Radeon RX 6800 barely a blip.

Unfortunately, there's no end in sight for the great GPU shortage, so you shouldn’t expect prices to settle down anytime soon. Both Nvidia and AMD expect it to linger for most of 2022, and Intel suggested last month that it likely won’t be resolved until 2023. The chip shortage is a complicated problem, and it takes time to spin up additional factories to satisfy demand.

Over the past year, using a very particular set of skills I have acquired over a long career as a dealhunter, I managed to snap up a $499 PS5 and a $399 Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti Founder’s Edition at MSRP. They’re worth roughly $2,317 today, not that I plan to sell. Here’s hoping next check-in, those prices will have gone way down.

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